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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s wrong with this hat?</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Plex Olivier</title>
		<link>http://www.3greeneggs.com/wp/secondlife/whats-wrong-with-this-hat/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>Plex Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on my experiences outlined above, I am guessing that your fascist-looking vendor's hat belongs to an SL "administrator."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on my experiences outlined above, I am guessing that your fascist-looking vendor&#8217;s hat belongs to an SL &#8220;administrator.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Plex Olivier</title>
		<link>http://www.3greeneggs.com/wp/secondlife/whats-wrong-with-this-hat/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>Plex Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was recently suspended for a day from Second Life by an "administrator."  I was not informed that I would be suspended.  I was not told why I was suspended.   Presumably, someone filed a complaint against me, but I was not allowed to confront my accuser, nor was the accuser named.  I was not presented with the "evidence" that convinced some nameless "administrator" to suspend me.  This is Linden Labs idea of justice.  In fact, my friends and I now refer to "SL Justice" as a synonym for Injustice and totalitarian legal behavior.

Not only is such injustice restricted to totalitarian regimes in Real Life, but even work environments do not suspend employees without explanation, justification, or a presentation of evidence of misconduct.  I wonder if Linden Labs arbitrarily suspends its employees based on allegations and edited evidence, without bothering to even ask for their version of events.  To the best of my knowledge any conflict in SL is recorded in either chat or IM logs, so it should be easy to copy and present the evidence to the accused for comment.  But apparently, monopolistic Linden Labs makes decisions based on hearsy, crony influence, and the dollar value of complainants versus the accused.  At least that is the opinion of most everyone I talk to in SL.  Residents always say the same thing, "Linden Labs only cares about the money."   I used to counter that assertion by stating that I believed that LL really cared about its residents and about fairness.  But Linden Labs has made a believer out of me by falsely suspending me without explanation.   I will no longer defend them when people complain.  It seems the residents are right after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was recently suspended for a day from Second Life by an &#8220;administrator.&#8221;  I was not informed that I would be suspended.  I was not told why I was suspended.   Presumably, someone filed a complaint against me, but I was not allowed to confront my accuser, nor was the accuser named.  I was not presented with the &#8220;evidence&#8221; that convinced some nameless &#8220;administrator&#8221; to suspend me.  This is Linden Labs idea of justice.  In fact, my friends and I now refer to &#8220;SL Justice&#8221; as a synonym for Injustice and totalitarian legal behavior.</p>
<p>Not only is such injustice restricted to totalitarian regimes in Real Life, but even work environments do not suspend employees without explanation, justification, or a presentation of evidence of misconduct.  I wonder if Linden Labs arbitrarily suspends its employees based on allegations and edited evidence, without bothering to even ask for their version of events.  To the best of my knowledge any conflict in SL is recorded in either chat or IM logs, so it should be easy to copy and present the evidence to the accused for comment.  But apparently, monopolistic Linden Labs makes decisions based on hearsy, crony influence, and the dollar value of complainants versus the accused.  At least that is the opinion of most everyone I talk to in SL.  Residents always say the same thing, &#8220;Linden Labs only cares about the money.&#8221;   I used to counter that assertion by stating that I believed that LL really cared about its residents and about fairness.  But Linden Labs has made a believer out of me by falsely suspending me without explanation.   I will no longer defend them when people complain.  It seems the residents are right after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ener Hax</title>
		<link>http://www.3greeneggs.com/wp/secondlife/whats-wrong-with-this-hat/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>Ener Hax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems that the context for this hat is entirely appropriate.  as someone with a family history that includes the loss of family to the Nazi's in WWII, i have absolutely no problem with this type of item.

when we censor out the bad parts of our past, we censor out the sacrifices leading to a better world today.

i once heard that Benjamin Franklin's fur collar would be removed on US currency as a nod to our current beliefs that fur trade is bad.  we only believe fur trade is bad because of past devastation and cruelty.  this past is illustrated by things like Franklin's collar.  if we remove that, we may forget about those events and why we look down on things like the fur industry.

removing a hat or collar does not alter history, but it may alter some of the reasons we are *hopefully* building a better future

just my opinion . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems that the context for this hat is entirely appropriate.  as someone with a family history that includes the loss of family to the Nazi&#8217;s in WWII, i have absolutely no problem with this type of item.</p>
<p>when we censor out the bad parts of our past, we censor out the sacrifices leading to a better world today.</p>
<p>i once heard that Benjamin Franklin&#8217;s fur collar would be removed on US currency as a nod to our current beliefs that fur trade is bad.  we only believe fur trade is bad because of past devastation and cruelty.  this past is illustrated by things like Franklin&#8217;s collar.  if we remove that, we may forget about those events and why we look down on things like the fur industry.</p>
<p>removing a hat or collar does not alter history, but it may alter some of the reasons we are *hopefully* building a better future</p>
<p>just my opinion . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Daz Cox</title>
		<link>http://www.3greeneggs.com/wp/secondlife/whats-wrong-with-this-hat/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Daz Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmmm there seemed to be a severe lack of clutter,people,animals, etc. The stalls seemed to have signs made by the same person which is more like a strip mall than a marketplace! But there were some very nice 3D recreations and textures.

Here's a suggestion, assign a role to the builders rather than a task.  Assign most of the people to the role of merchant and worker and squeeze them together in a tiny space where they must build a house and/or a shop.

Assign the rest to be the government/royalty etc and give them most of the rest of the land to build grand palaces and mosques etc. 

I think a sim for tourism should have an ongoing commitment to improved content and an effort to attract traffic as when I went there it was empty and there was nothing to do but see the sights and then leave with no incentive to bookmark the site or extend my travel to a website or to Morocco itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmm there seemed to be a severe lack of clutter,people,animals, etc. The stalls seemed to have signs made by the same person which is more like a strip mall than a marketplace! But there were some very nice 3D recreations and textures.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a suggestion, assign a role to the builders rather than a task.  Assign most of the people to the role of merchant and worker and squeeze them together in a tiny space where they must build a house and/or a shop.</p>
<p>Assign the rest to be the government/royalty etc and give them most of the rest of the land to build grand palaces and mosques etc. </p>
<p>I think a sim for tourism should have an ongoing commitment to improved content and an effort to attract traffic as when I went there it was empty and there was nothing to do but see the sights and then leave with no incentive to bookmark the site or extend my travel to a website or to Morocco itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren Daz Cox</title>
		<link>http://www.3greeneggs.com/wp/secondlife/whats-wrong-with-this-hat/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren Daz Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's the problem with censorship and prohibition,  that which is censored gains an aura of mystery and then curiosity becomes a factor.

I'll pop into this sim and see what's going on!

Daz Honey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the problem with censorship and prohibition,  that which is censored gains an aura of mystery and then curiosity becomes a factor.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll pop into this sim and see what&#8217;s going on!</p>
<p>Daz Honey</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Pouliot</title>
		<link>http://www.3greeneggs.com/wp/secondlife/whats-wrong-with-this-hat/#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Pouliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some craziness going on in your comments, Hilary!

But this is quite the interesting situation.  Provided that this is an educational island, I feel that you should do what would be appropriate and somehow hold some sort of discussion on the issue in SL.  Personally, it doesn't effect me and I say, if it brings more people to the island, then great!

If it offends them, that's unfortunate, but blog posts like this one are informative and shed's light on the subject</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some craziness going on in your comments, Hilary!</p>
<p>But this is quite the interesting situation.  Provided that this is an educational island, I feel that you should do what would be appropriate and somehow hold some sort of discussion on the issue in SL.  Personally, it doesn&#8217;t effect me and I say, if it brings more people to the island, then great!</p>
<p>If it offends them, that&#8217;s unfortunate, but blog posts like this one are informative and shed&#8217;s light on the subject</p>
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		<title>By: Vissy A</title>
		<link>http://www.3greeneggs.com/wp/secondlife/whats-wrong-with-this-hat/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Vissy A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Heilman is not correct. The "SS" as he thinks was in charge of all the evil of WW2. Nothing could be further from the truth. ALL members of the German army that were foreign (to Germany) served under the Waffen-SS.

I served in Germany (Offenbach USAF) and it was COMMON to see people that still owned all types of things with Swastikas, if nothing else but for the novelty of it. It is NOT illegal to own by any means as long as it is deemed "historical, educational, financially valuable or heiloomic in nature" , and a good friend of mine there has a collection of Nazi-proofed fine dining ware, and her grandfathers totenkopf ring and copper(?) gestapo ID tag. She is not political, and loves the stories her loving Grandfather tells (now in his 90s). I see nothing evil in this man, nor were any of the dozens of stories I've heard say anything about any holocaust, other than the one his family was put through in France after WW2,  had their home taken from them, imprisoned without charge and slept outside for two years in an overcrowded camp, women and children and low-level German military...CIVILIANS dying daily. Where was the Red Cross then? Where are the Speilbergs making movies about THOSE camps?

You can get cited for giving the "roman salute" if it is deemed to be in the course of an offensive act. Violence without it is usually overlooked and the laws are thus ridiculous and selective. Most of the time "Nazi!" is the term used for anyone that opposes losing a job or an apartment to an immigrant guest-worker family. most lazy young kids welcome it, as they dont have to work for another two years and get another place to live.

In a game where internet scams and spam, animal sex, death machines, satanic rituals and god knows what else exist freely under LL's ToS, they cater to a whining crybaby that is offended BY A HAT.

Get a life and GTFO out my second life. Asshat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Heilman is not correct. The &#8220;SS&#8221; as he thinks was in charge of all the evil of WW2. Nothing could be further from the truth. ALL members of the German army that were foreign (to Germany) served under the Waffen-SS.</p>
<p>I served in Germany (Offenbach USAF) and it was COMMON to see people that still owned all types of things with Swastikas, if nothing else but for the novelty of it. It is NOT illegal to own by any means as long as it is deemed &#8220;historical, educational, financially valuable or heiloomic in nature&#8221; , and a good friend of mine there has a collection of Nazi-proofed fine dining ware, and her grandfathers totenkopf ring and copper(?) gestapo ID tag. She is not political, and loves the stories her loving Grandfather tells (now in his 90s). I see nothing evil in this man, nor were any of the dozens of stories I&#8217;ve heard say anything about any holocaust, other than the one his family was put through in France after WW2,  had their home taken from them, imprisoned without charge and slept outside for two years in an overcrowded camp, women and children and low-level German military&#8230;CIVILIANS dying daily. Where was the Red Cross then? Where are the Speilbergs making movies about THOSE camps?</p>
<p>You can get cited for giving the &#8220;roman salute&#8221; if it is deemed to be in the course of an offensive act. Violence without it is usually overlooked and the laws are thus ridiculous and selective. Most of the time &#8220;Nazi!&#8221; is the term used for anyone that opposes losing a job or an apartment to an immigrant guest-worker family. most lazy young kids welcome it, as they dont have to work for another two years and get another place to live.</p>
<p>In a game where internet scams and spam, animal sex, death machines, satanic rituals and god knows what else exist freely under LL&#8217;s ToS, they cater to a whining crybaby that is offended BY A HAT.</p>
<p>Get a life and GTFO out my second life. Asshat.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Heilmann</title>
		<link>http://www.3greeneggs.com/wp/secondlife/whats-wrong-with-this-hat/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Heilmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it is very culturally offensive for Germans as this is not only a part of a Nazi uniform, but more specifically the  SS, which was the special elite unit in charge of the holocaust. 

The signature (the skull) is a sign that did inspire fear and oppression for a lot of people, imagine the KKK outfits times 10.

This is why it is illegal to show anywhere in Germany or where you might get access to as a German. This includes swastikas, too, so ebay had some issues with their German offers that way. 

You can go to jail for owning something like that in Germany, which is why neo-nazi propaganda and products are actually produced in Denmark, the US or South America. It is also illegal to own Hitler's books. 

Part of these laws were written by the US when they occupied Germany, and whilst I understand the point then I'd consider it worth while to loosen these laws, especially as it would make it a lot less "rebel" to get them as a young hoodlum. 

This goes as far as the Balance of Power Star Trek Episode that plays in a Nazi environment (what drugs were the writers on) never airing in Germany and video Games getting all Swastikas removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it is very culturally offensive for Germans as this is not only a part of a Nazi uniform, but more specifically the  SS, which was the special elite unit in charge of the holocaust. </p>
<p>The signature (the skull) is a sign that did inspire fear and oppression for a lot of people, imagine the KKK outfits times 10.</p>
<p>This is why it is illegal to show anywhere in Germany or where you might get access to as a German. This includes swastikas, too, so ebay had some issues with their German offers that way. </p>
<p>You can go to jail for owning something like that in Germany, which is why neo-nazi propaganda and products are actually produced in Denmark, the US or South America. It is also illegal to own Hitler&#8217;s books. </p>
<p>Part of these laws were written by the US when they occupied Germany, and whilst I understand the point then I&#8217;d consider it worth while to loosen these laws, especially as it would make it a lot less &#8220;rebel&#8221; to get them as a young hoodlum. </p>
<p>This goes as far as the Balance of Power Star Trek Episode that plays in a Nazi environment (what drugs were the writers on) never airing in Germany and video Games getting all Swastikas removed.</p>
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		<title>By: PatrickD</title>
		<link>http://www.3greeneggs.com/wp/secondlife/whats-wrong-with-this-hat/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>PatrickD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see nothing wrong with it at all, especially because it is in contex with the virtual enviroment.

I think LL is catering to people who are overly sensative, I've seen much more offensive and obsceane content in SL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see nothing wrong with it at all, especially because it is in contex with the virtual enviroment.</p>
<p>I think LL is catering to people who are overly sensative, I&#8217;ve seen much more offensive and obsceane content in SL.</p>
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